Sunday Chat

[sunsetmondays]

Salad Server Whitelist Changes

Pause read fanficton on stream!!! And it wasn't even on Salad. Apparently there's fic on wattpad. It's official. The kinky people hang out on wattpad.

More like saturday chat but by the time you see this it'll probs be sunday in some part of the globe. give this 10 mins for nz at least. But who even cares I'm the one who posts this  thing and I have lots of things to talk about so sue me.

Not really gonna talk about events in salad or Mindcrack today. Instead, I've got some more general and even a couple of meta things to talk about. So here we go. (Also, happy b-day, Kurt!)

Let's start with the short and sweet stuff. I just want to start off by saying congrats to some of the members who joined between the 150 and 200 member mark as reading some of their fics, I'm starting to see a good amount of improvement in fic quality from people such as purplesky which is really great. It's good to see people's writing improve and is a good bit of inspiration for some of our newer members and shoes that a bit of effort and practise really can make a difference. :D Keep up the writing

Still on the short side, just a reminder that people properly tag posts. If it's fiction, use the fanficton tag, if it's something else, look in that tag to see what kind of things are posted to that tag before adding that tag. Make sure that when you add the tag, it's spelled and worded exactly as in the sidebar otherwise it won't be added. And on correct tag usage, when tagging Mindcrackers, don't go overboard with the tags. The tags are used to find fics about those people, not people who have a one sentence mention. I recommend keeping it to the main characters in that fic. And if you want to be super helpful with the SFP, no more than 4 character tags. Tagging is good, but don't go overboard. Also make sure you're appropriately adding age-restriction barriers such as nsfw and 18+ where appropriate.

More on the short things, in a recent livestream Seth mentioned that he has recorded sans pants before. Other Mindcrackers have also mentioned this in the past. What are your thoughts on this? Any prompty fic ideas come out of it? I love it but shh I didn't say that okay.

Now onto the meta stuff: Salad Mentions:
In the recent podcast the salad, or more specifically, the mindcrack fanfic site was brought up with promises of linking Sevadus to it after the podcast. As of late, Vechs has also made plenty of salad mentions, and t has been talked about by various mindcrackers a lot more than it used to be. This got me thinking and I wanted to talk about it here.
What do you guys think about the more common mentions of salad by mindcrackers? To some extent they're good in directing more members towards mindcrack fanficton which can be good, but making a bit of a name for ourselves does have other connotations. TBH, some part of me is a little uncomfortable about the salad mentions, especially from people like Vechs who seem to mention it at least every other week or more as of late. I feel like some of that taboo about real person fiction and the main unspoken rule about not showing them the rpf fic is being impeded on and I also kind of wonder what kind of audience those mentions are bringing to salad and wonder if all these mentions may soon start to direct trolls in out direction. It is great that mindcrack is generally so accepting of fanfiction and in some cases, openly encourages it which is a luxury many other fandoms don't have, but I kinda feel like salad is the kind of thing better kept hush-hush about - more of a question whispered between strangers in the dark or exchanged under the quiet of private message. Do you think salad should be openly mentioned? How do hearing those mentions make you feel?
And a continuation of this? At's now becoming more known that mindcrackers and such still read some of the fics on here with some of them such as Aurey and Vechs actively seeking out fanfiction of themselves. How do you feel about mindcrackers lurking on here? Which mindcrackers that aren't so open about it do you think lurk on here. If you yourself reading this post somehow find yourself to be a lurking mindcracker, are you willing to make an account or an anonymous post with maybe a vague tweet or something to show that you are in fact lurking and not a figment of our imaginations? What do you think makes the mindcrackers want to read the salad? If you are a mindcracker, feel free to tell us. I wonder if they do it because it's amusing like a good joke or a bad pun, do they do it merely out of curiosity, or do they merely enjoy fanfiction in the same way that many of us do - as an exploration of people we know and like doing interesting and adventurous things in a fictitious setting that they don't normally do? We don't need to mention the smut but you can if you want.

Lots of questiony thing and stuff to talk about here today. Anyways, enjoy your SundayI :D

Alpaca.

Comments

[tsugrad]

Salad seems like it's something better discussed quietly, due to the subreddit's somewhat mixed reactions to fanfiction in the past. I don't particularly care if Mindcrackers discuss Salad, though it honestly makes me a bit more comfortable if they don't say us by name (We seem to be the sort of community which can be mentioned, but saying the name around strangers is frowned upon sorta-kinda).
Also, yes, Mindcrackers recording without pants is great.
(Shhh it's 7AM here and I haven't slept yet.)
(Snacking with SunsetMondays, just a spoon away from happiness!)

Alpaca.

[fallingonthefloor]

I always forget to tag my fictions with the fiction tag for some reason.

It was a nice surprise to find out that Kurt's birthday was a day before mine.

I find it cool that the 'Crackers are taking more of an interest to this little community

[fireredlily]

I'll admit that I've been guilty of tagging everyone mentioned before, but I wasn't aware that those tags were being used to determine main characters for SFP! I usually have the main characters in a summary, or in the case of my recent chapter fic, at the top of the first chapter.

On that note, it appears that while the original posters can add tags, they cannot remove them. That will still require mod intervention to fix. D:

[oliviathecf]

the salad being mentioned more often kinda freaks me out if im being honest.

maybe it's fine for the people who write mainly fluff fics, but, being a mainly smut writer myself, it's making me far more hesitant to post works.

well not completely. i've been pretty busy as of late, though i've been writing on tumblr. im doing this nsfw challenge, which i was planning on posting in three separate parts.

but still, it's kind of at a grey area at the moment. do i ignore the fact that people who may not be totally accepting and post work, or do i take that into consideration and save the weird stuff for my tumblr?

[yamina_chan]

I don't mind the fact that we are mentioned per see.
We are in a gray zone of "what is propper when writing FanFictions", and as such I follow the Secret Tree House guildelines: "They are aware that we exist. We don't bring the topic to them, but if they want to talk about it, it is their fair right to do so."

What does irk me about it a little is the fact that we are talkebd about not as "the FanFiction site" but as "the shippy FanFiction site" and the fact that, whenever it is brought up, those are the stories that are talked about.
I understand that this is part of what we are. Hell, it is a HUGE part of what we are and it is great the way it is! - But we are more then just that.
I can proudly say "I am a member of the Salad", because we are a great cummunity of many thinghs, of many ideas and various levels of quality in writing.
We are the part of the Mindcrack fan community that writes about what we love instead of making videos or drawings (Not that we don't do that, because we do that too, but it is not something that is done as much here as that we post that elsewhere.)

In short: I don't mind if we are brought up, but I would like to be seen as what we are, and not as what we appear to be at first glance.

[stormoftara]

I tried to delete all the tags from my fics, and it's not working. Also, can we maybe have a multiple mindcracker tag? The story I'm writing right now doesn't really focus on any one main character, but 12 of them. So I don't know who to tag really. Sorry?

I just joined here mainly because the mindcrackers were mentioning the salad. So I don't mind, but I can see other people minding them mentioning it so much.

[theropod]

All my fucks at being mentioned are long gone. After the first big thing of mine was mentioned on the podcast I've just kind of gone 'oh hey its us again' and enjoyed whatevers being said usually. So far no one has turned around and gone 'Please stop writing about me', it's mostly 'people write about us lots' so I'm pretty cool with it.

[oliviathecf]

yeah...so far, we haven't really be mentioned negatively by any of the guys. of course, mc is beyond cool with us but some of the others are just kinda like "don't mention it to me"...

the community on reddit...not as nice to us...

[ex_writeitinsharpie308]

I kinda feel like we should be a background, like "Hey, lets google up a fanfic website for Mindcrack... there is one?" Kinda thing... That's how I found the salad...

[hawser]

I think Mindcracker's mentioning salad is pretty cool - the only thing I don't like about it, is that some of the viewers if their videos take the idea of Salad a little weirdly; but I and I assume a lot others try not to let that boter them. So, overall, Mindcrackers mentioning salad is 'aiiiight', and it brings this community and the Mindcrackers closer, I guess.

[kappa77]

But is reddit really nice about anything?

[theropod]

Reddit overall is a really nasty place and if it wasn't for the mindcrack subreddit I wouldn't go looking there ever, its really quite a horrible place. It's not surprising that they'd give us a bad reaction. Frankly I hope the kind of people that frequent Reddit don't come here, I really just do not wanna deal with that kind of nastiness.

[scaredykitty]

I like the salad being mentioned. I dislike this idea that because it's fanfiction, it shouldn't be talked about. If you read it, you should be able to talk about whenever you wanna talk about it. *shrug*

Then again, I just like talking about stuff.

[wildh10l]

I've always liked the idea that whoever ended up here we're looking specifically for Mindcrack fanfiction because they got the idea themselves and not from a Mindcracker mentioning it. I assume that's how most of the earlier people got here, myself included. But that's obviously changing, as the Mindcrackers are mentioning us more and more.

I don't mind salad being mentioned really. It brings more people who will add to our great community. My only worry is that someone will come along with less.... kind... intent. But I figure that when that does happen, we can deal with it.

Oh and question for my own fic! I'm writing Aureylian in as my main character but I haven't been subbed to her for very long so i don't know a lot of things about her (or her pets in this case). I've writen that she has her own horse and I need a name for it, but I don't know if she already has a horse in minecraft with a name that I can use. She also has a dog but again, same problem. So I was wondering if anyone knows if Aurey has a named horse and dog. I need to know so I can either use existing names or make them up. Thanks! :)

[astralradiance]

I have mixed feelings about us being mentioned so much. On the one hand, I never would've discovered this wonderful community had it not been for one of them mentioning it. On the other hand, I'm concerned, like many others, that haters will come around and not just haters of fanfiction in general. With Vechs and Aurey talking about shipping so much, we've already seen an introduction or two showing homophobia. I haven't seen anything like that in the past month or however long, but it was still very disconcerting. I don't mind people having any opinion, but it's not necessary to say hurtful things. Regardless, I'll just trust in our awesome mods to take care of hateful peoples and remind myself to keep my emotions in check! <3

(Also, I'll keep the "tagging too many Mindcrackers" thing in mind for future fics. :b)

And welcome welcome to anyone new who's reading this that I didn't get a chance to welcome before!

[oliviathecf]

nope. which is why i kinda would like salad to stay on salad. like it's fine that they all know, but i don't want reddit being shitty about it to any of us.

[oliviathecf]

yeah, most of reddit is disgusting. and the part that isn't disgusting is plain old gross.

i go on there for the mindcrack sub, some of the more feminist subs, and askreddit (story time). that's it.

[justicetom]

(Pssst, yamina. You misspelled community, and while I don't normally point those things out... Bad misspelling, sorry!)

[justicetom]

Personally, Salad being mentioned more often both makes me happy - Possibility of new members - and scares me - The internet has people who would be VERY bad to have her. For the Mindcrackers checking out our fics, personally I'm fine with it... As long as they don't criticise it or say they hate it or anything like that. Makes me nervous :P

Alpaca?

[sunsetmondays]

Alpaca.

[sunsetmondays]

As a smut writer myself (while I do write some genfic stuff it's not what I'm known for) I do too get hesitant about some stuff. Geeze, there's a bunch of stuff that's half-written because I don't even want to finish them because of blurred lines of taboo and stuff.

On the plus side it's yay a couple of them may approve of the smut, but then there's fretting over if they see it more as something to have a good laugh over. And I guess the completely non-accepting mindcrackers tend to keep their distance.

Though I'm still definitely curious about why whenever it's mentioned to someone new in most cases, one of their first reactions is to ask for a link.

[silvercheers]

(Thanks for the mention last week, Sunset. ;) Don't really feel I deserve it at the moment, but I'll work on earning that back.)

Tagtagtagtag. I will be good about tags, I promise. :3

I don't really have an opinion on the talky bit. As far as I think, they can talk about whatever they like. I do worry about getting hateful people here, but rolling with the punches has always been my strategy for internet things. And besides, people have been pretty respectful so far. There's no reason why that can't continue. *shrug* Eh, I suppose I'm an eternal optimist.

[knite_owl]

Hmmm, I'm still kinda new so I don't know exactly how I feel about being mentioned as the "we ship Mindcracks" site. When I first found out that writing fanfic about Mindcrack was a thing, I instantly tried to find stories, and then had a bad experience with a very smut filed fic. It weirded me out that people were writing that kind of stuff about real people, and it left a bad taste in my mouth. After a while, though, I guess it kinda grew on me and I set out to find more fics. That's how I ended up here, because I wanted read this kind of stuff. When the 'Crackers mention this site in the Podcast or in episodes, I might send over people who don't like what we write and they could start being pretty nasty. I guess that's what scares me a bit.

I have yet to watch the Podcast, but from reading this thread, it doesn't seemed like we've been mentioned in a bad light. Until that happens, I won't worry too much. :]

[yamina_chan]

(Yes, I see it now that you mention that XD' And bad typo indeed. But the timespan for editing is over, so I can't fix it ^^' Thanks for pointing it out though. And by all means, do tell me when I do these things. Sometimes it's a typo, sometimes I don't know these things Xb)

[oliviathecf]

yeah, there's so much that you're just like "is this too far?" about, even if it's something that's not triggering.

yeah, and i have my google docs folder which is dedicated to the things that'll never see the light of day. there are just some lines that i'm not willing to cross in the public eye.

it kinda gives me some hope that they don't immediately say "wtf ew" at the fanfictions. we are pretty respectful as a community, and not in their face about it...so i guess that's where some of that...not immediately disgusted mindset has come from.

[brynae]

Personally, I don't mind the mentions of Salad. As many people have already said, if this means we get more good writers then I'm all for it! However, with this growing community we will have to be very careful about the hate that may be directed our way.

I am very proud of my involvement in the Salad, I've gone so far as to have a cute salad-bowl badge made just so I can have a private joke with some of my like-minded friends :3

[sisduke]

I quite like the idea of Mindcrackers knowing about our community but it slightly weirds me out. The fact that people we write in a fictional sense are reading it in the real sense. Like Real!MC reading Fiction!MC. But if they support us, I'm happy.

I'm going to go bug Tsu about what Alpaca means...

[(Anonymous)]

If you don't mind me asking, what was the fanfic pause read called? And who did it involve?

[sunsetmondays]

It involved Pause, Millbee, Beef, and Z.
Here, have a link. (Warning for very nsfw) http://www.wattpad.com/10969423-a-night-on-mindcrack

[drama_llama1]

:3 I can't believe he read that on his stream XD

[(Anonymous)]

It appears that someone has linked to us on tumblr. Didnt mention the codeword, twas tagged as fanfiction. Its in the mindcrack tag, so I think somethin' may end up happenin'. What that somethin' is, I dunno.

~ajrainbowz

[knite_owl]

I just realized that was the very first "shippy" Mindcrack fanfic I'd ever read, and the one I mentioned in a comment above. Weird...
(also, do you know about what time in the stream he started reading that?)

[sunsetmondays]

Tumblr has known about salad for the most part for a long while now. A lot of saladers have tumblr and a lot of tumblr peeps have a salad account though not everyone on tumblr posts their fics to the salad. So I really don't expect much to happen from that.

[sunsetmondays]

No idea. Somewhere before Rob joined though. I wasn't there when he started reading it and wasn't smart enough to note time. *Prods those who were there and remember the time*
Wait wait wait. Been scrolling through the stream for the past 45 mins with crappy aus i-net being a pain and not loading all too quickly. But alas, I found it. 2:29:10 would be a good place to start watching.

[sunsetmondays]

Hehehehe.
/alpaca/

[sunsetmondays]

we need salad t-shirts. *boops those with artistic ability*

[knite_owl]

Thank you so much! <3

[shichahn]

Rob also read this one on their second night of drunk streaming (although he altered the ending - apparently when Bruce gets off, all the jimmies get a proc, lmao).

[sequere_lucem]

It would seem to me that the amount of attention would direct trolls and create problems that the salad management would have to resolve. In the time I have been lurking, I have always seen it as a more of a quiet and perhaps even covert association of fans verses a scociety openly mentioned like in recent occurrences. Though, I am thankful for the support of the Mindcrack group, it feels a bit odd. Perhaps it will die down and any mention of the salad will cease, though that seems unlikely. Never in my experience has it been mentioned so much, and unless it stops, salad could become overridden by trolls and the vast numbers of people would push us further away from a community and more like.. well.. a huge group where no one really knows anyone or cares about much of anything other than arguing and trolling, kinda like the comment section on YouTube videos. Though I haven't been a member long, I have lurked for ages and I don't want to see the salad in shambles. Not to be paranoid, but this could very well be the beginning of the end. I have seen groups fall apart like this, they get recognition and then the community is shattered by trolls and huge quantities of immature people. I suggest action before it is too late. We need to get in contact with the Mindcrack team in all private means necessary and beg that any mention of salad be discretely stopped, meaning on everything, websites and videos alike, lest we be ruined. It may seem a bit like an overreaction, but I have been a part of many groups that have It would seem to me that the amount of attention would direct trolls and create problems that the salad management would have to resolve. In the time I have been lurking, I have always seen it as a more of a quiet and perhaps even covert association of fans verses a scociety openly mentioned like in recent occurrences. Though, I am thankful for the support of the Mindcrack group, it feels a bit odd. Perhaps it will die down and any mention of the salad will cease, though that seems unlikely. Never in my experience has it been mentioned so much, and unless it stops, salad could become overridden by trolls and the vast numbers of people would push us further away from a community and more like.. well.. a huge group where no one really knows anyone or cares about much of anything other than arguing and trolling, kinda like the comment section on YouTube videos. Though I haven't been a member long, I have lurked for ages and I don't want to see the salad in shambles. Not to be paranoid, but this could very well be the beginning of the end. I have seen groups fall apart like this, they get recognition and then the community is shattered by trolls and huge quantities of immature people. I suggest action before it is too late. We need to get in contact with the Mindcrack team in all private means necessary and beg that any mention of salad be discretely stopped, meaning on everything, websites and videos alike, lest we be ruined. It may seem a bit like an overreaction, but I have been a part of many groups that have been destroyed in the same manner. We thought that everything would be okay and so no action was taken, yet those communities ended up pretty much the same as the YouTube comment section, for lack of a better example. Please, don't let salad die, take action, ask Mindcrackers to stop, even if you don't watch them, send a message to them. It may already be to late, already we have seen a ton of growth and not all of the new members have shown their true colors I imagine, but the least we can do is try. Ya with me?

[sunsetmondays]

You've brought up some really valid points here. Yeah, the occasional mention of the fanfic site on the podcast is alright, but when people like Vechs actively mention the Salad by name and practically beg for fanfiction, I do find that rather uncomfortable.

Either way, I also feel that shipping should be a bit more organic than having a person almost constantly ask to be shipped or ask for fics of a pairing involving them. If you're asking for people to ship you with someone like that and forcing the flirting so much it just feels plastic and unpleasant.

[elfowlgirl]

Uhhhh I haven't read any of the other posts here but blah blah blah mention by name is super uncomfortable ('the salad is real' haunts my nightmares) and solely being "that shipping site" is gonna make me jump through the interwebs and punch everyone in the face.

I'm all for the attention, don't get me wrong, but we're a fanfic site. Fanfics of any kind should be acknowledged, regardless of whether the characters featured in it are banging each other.

[halcyonlioness]

First, small stuff to get out of the way:
--A happy belated birthday to Mr. KurtJMac. Though you don’t drink anymore, I toast you with the finest scotch I could afford, sir. Let us hope people don’t mix up your birthdate again next year. *chuckle*
--Its rather gratifying being a veteran writer (and now a veteran Saladier) to watch the newcomers improve before our eyes. I only wish I could do more for the newcomers, but time and life’s circumstances are putting a serious damper on it.
--With all the new tags (I’m still trying to find time to put tags on everything I’ve submitted thus far, too) it’s no surprise that people have having trouble adjusting, especially the newcomers. It’ll be a habit we’ll all need to learn eventually if we’re going to make this site a bit less of a hassle to navigate. Might I suggest enforcing tags in some way? … hopefully something short of hiding the post altogether?

Now, the big topic.

On the whole, I am rather ambivalent to the whole ‘Salad being mentioned off-handedly/outright by the heroes that inspired it’ kerfuffle. All at once, it is good for us to get acknowledged and receive the traffic that said acknowledgement generates; yet I am uncertain about what sort of first impression are we giving the uninitiated coming to see what we’re really like and worrying that they will not like what they find. In the end, publicity is publicity, and whether we like it or not, we’re getting that attention… and the consequences generated thereof.

Brace yourselves. Change is coming.

I’ve long ago accepted that shipping was going to be a major part of the Salad’s identity, no matter how hard we try to downplay it. It was born from a desire to write fanfic of every sort--especially slashshippy--in a safe and accepting place far from the vitriol that threatened to dampen it. It is my hope that this open, vulnerable, and accommodating nature remains core to the Salad and that same nature evolves into something more as our beloved sub-community grows and inevitably attracts the same bad eggs that warranted the creation of the Salad in the first place.

That said (and I know you other veterans are tired of hearing/reading me harping on this) I do dream of the Salad being referred to as being more than ‘the shippy site’ and the fact that ‘it exists’. It could be the home of some of the best fanfics produced for the Mindcrackhead fandom, a place where aspiring writers can go to -learn- what it takes to write the next great fanfic, and where there is an impressive stable of veteran writers willing to teach those who come wanting to follow in their footsteps. Therefore, I do find it a bit of a shame and a bit heartbreaking that “oh, hey. XYZ told us we could find some hot ships here” is a thing, and that’s all the majority of newcomers are looking for/are willing to provide us with if they want to add content to our happy little page here.

I wish that weren’t an unwanted truth, but it is and I don’t think there’s really much we could do about it. A fellow Saladier and someone familiar with heavy shipping in fandoms observed that shipping tends to get the most attention the quickest and it tends to be remembered the most easily. Have to admit that I’m of the mind that the previous statement is because that is what the mainstream has been trained to expect out of our beloved artform of choice; and it doesn’t help that ‘hot ships and smut’ happen to be the stereotype people are quick to jump to when they hear the word ‘fanfiction’.

And with the way them younguns and a good hefty chunk of us folks who’ve lived at least more than twenty summers got their brains wired, there’s really no mass remedy mortals can cook up for that desire to see some rather twisted fantasies become manifest. Honestly and unfortunately (and I apologize for this opinion,) the ubiquitous shipfics the Salad (and sites like it) are (in)famous for are an analgesic balm for that one unfortunately permanent and nasty mental itch that won’t ever abate (if that makes any sense.) All we could ever hope to do is just play damage control, and I'm persuaded that’s a major part of why there was a major overhaul of the tagging system recently.

I’m sad to say that I’m also fairly certain that the insatiable desire to see “upper-end” shipping and the circlejerk that tends to follow in its wake has scared off some good folks that might have one day become the greatest advocates of this artform of adulation… and turned them into our most vocal opposition. When I heard news that Lady BlueBayou was absolutely terrified of/disgusted at us and what our pens and keyboards could conjure, it was everything I could do to keep myself from running to the rescue and looking more like the uneducated and uninformed dork I already was… and (as much as I hate to say this) I don’t think any amount of damage control, introduction, forewarning, and order is really going stem the tide of detractors nor will it assuage the fears of those who really don’t understand our medium and the motives behind our choices (and I really doubt anyone will be willing to set aside the time to understand, either. Stereotypes are easier to handle than understanding, unfortunately.)

And the breaking of this unfortunate stereotype that “fanfic = shippy” is why I even started writing Mindcrack-inspired fiction in the first place; a trend I hope others would perpetuate (To the few stellar writers who already do, I applaud you.) and that the lurking Mindcrackers would take note of and acknowledge in a positive light.

There is more to fanfic than seeing two people getting intimate and loveydovey (to the point of ‘crossing swords’) -- it can be about friends just being friends, family being family, heroes being heroes. Stories can be compelling without having the climax be one in the bedroom or the shower; character development can be more how one’s feelings for another develop into romance; relationships between characters can be more than between lovers, villains, and rivals; settings can transcend the server and even real life. The final products of fanfiction can be as polished and as thought-provoking as a store-bought hardcover novel and something beyond the usual stilted walls of text, spelling, and punctuation the circlejerkers characterise our artform as.

The Salad can be more and the stories we produce here can be more. It is my foolish hope that our patrons (be they the adoring fans and the actual Mindcrackers alike) and the fresh eyes that will follow them, will see and acknowledge the true versatility of our artform and come away enlightened as much as they were entertained. … and yes, I acknowledge that this is all easier said than done.

TL;DR and in closing--while I am pleased and excited to know more eyes are on us, it pains me to see that many of us are willingly and unwittingly (and some of us knowingly) perpetuating the stereotypes that have long been a stigma on our artform of choice. I can only hope that we will continue making bold steps toward not only improving our community page and content as our community evolves and grows exponentially, but also improving our presence in the larger Mindcrack community; that we will one day be remembered as more than ‘that one shippy site’ by our heroes and inspirations, but as that renegade sub-community that fostered some of the best writers and ship-centric/non-ship-centric fiction the Mindcrack community ever produced.

And that’s my few thousand bucks. Don’t spend it all in one place, folks. <3

~Lioness

[sequere_lucem]

Much agree, very approve, so understood

[sunsetmondays]

Here here. Even though I am well known for my nebtho, I do highly enjoy gen fics and hope to have a long-rubbing gen series myself today. It is very annoying that when we are acknowledged it is all too often in the light of shipping. Geeze, the little subtitle thing proclaims us as ship friendly. We do need more genfics in this expanding community and whilst dw is our home it isn't exactly the most optimised place for fic in rhat it is very hard to find fics and unlike out smaller days, fics are quickly pushed to the back of the room. I think there needs to be a more serious look into the possibilities of new locations of our own, preferebly not a multi fandom site such as ao3 as we really are more than just fanfic. But this chat post and comment is nt the place for such a discussion at the moment.
Though, may I propose changing the subheading thing to Mindcracklove: the largest community for Mindcrack fanfiction, both general fic and shipping alike.

[brynae]

My friend suggested the idea of shirts with the Mindcrack logo at the back, with a Salad bowl (like your icon) at the front. Maybe with the quote "Officially sanctioned, Ministry approved" from Coestar underneath?

Ideas.

[sunsetmondays]

Nice idea, but mindcrack do own the mindcrack logo so using their logo wouldn't be legal

[bookworm2692]

Wasn't there a time when MC was upset because he wasn't shipped with anyone? I know he wasn't as "please write this, please write that" as Vechs is, but he was a little "oh. I'm not shipped. Ok then"

[brynae]

Hmm... I'll have to put more thought to this. We could just use the Salad bowl and quote, and not have the Mindcrack logo?

Speaking of which...

Do we have an 'official' Salad logo? I was thinking that your icon could be it, if we don't have an official logo.