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mindcrackloveSome useful information on the Family Relations story.
I’ve realized that most people probably don’t have quite the…obsession that I have with Northern Ireland. Also, should explain some other things with where people are from and such.
This is technically set during the Northern Ireland 'troubles', however it is otherwise modern day. Or to think of it otherwise, the troubles have continued rather than having the current peace treaty.
Baj (and by extension, Tom) were born and raised in Manchester. They don’t live there, mind, they live…somewhere I haven’t decided yet, but it’s closer to London than that.
Baj being from Manchester is…useful, in this regards, since Manchester saw some of the same problems that Northern Ireland has, but from the other side, effectively.
Dinnerbone was born in London. He was raised wherever they are all living now. His mother is still around, but Baj has full custody of Dinnerbone.
Millbee was born in Cardiff and raised there until he was eight. His mother passed away then (when he was eight) in an accident. At that point, he came to live with Baj and Dinnerbone.
Pyro was born in, well. Derry/Londonderry, though if you ask him, it’s Derry. He was mostly raised in Belfast, however. When he is talking about living on one end of the Falls Road, well, the Falls Road is known for being a nationalist area. That’s why he says they live towards the neutral parts of it, since Tom couldn’t very well live with them at the top of it, basically.
This is where it becomes important to know how Pyro was raised.
He was raised almost exclusively by his mother and her side of the family. Tom was…there, and lived with them, etc., but he allowed his mother to do basically the entire raising. This is probably mostly since he was working most of the time, but also since he wasn’t really expecting to have a kid and get married. Since Lasairfhíona seemed more prepared to deal with a kid, Tom let her deal with it, she wasn’t, but things happen.
Also. Lasairfhíona and her family are Irish Nationalists. This means they support the cause of Northern Ireland joining with the Republic of Ireland. Northern Ireland is under the…control/government of the United Kingdom, currently (both in real life and in the story).
Thanks to this, Pyro has been effectively raised as an Irish Nationalist as well. He doesn’t think about it much, but it informs what he knows and, as well, thinks about England.
In this case, his family has pretty much convinced him that England itself is…worse than Northern Ireland is. He is under the impression that he can be arrested/interned (interned being held in prison without trial) for, basically, being Irish in the wrong places. And in this case, the wrong place includes all of England. This is why he’s so concerned about speaking Irish. It’s the easiest way to tell if some is Irish, after all. He also is unaware that Northern Ireland is under martial law. He thinks that the military presence is both normal and common. He’s vaguely aware that the military hasn’t always been there, and that his mother’s family is fighting to get them removed from the province, but he hasn’t really analyzed it all that much.
This is problematic for him, since he’s normally a very chipper and outgoing sort of person. Once he starts to realize that he’s not going to be arrested or anything, he will get more outgoing again, but he’ll always have the inner dialogue going, basically “I want to go home. They are trying to trick you and keep you from wanting to go home. You need to go home. They might be nice people, but this isn’t home.” And so on. Whether or not any of the others realize what he’s doing is…debatable. Baj might, once he starts contemplating various things, and he of course, can call Tom and ask him. Tom is the sort of person to be able to feel at home anywhere, but the expense of that is that he never really considers anything about where he’s living to be unusual or strange. So, he’s not really aware of how messed up things are. Sure, he knows that the province is under martial law, but, well, Northern Ireland has always had its problems, right? No Tom, not at all.
If you have any more specific questions that I am forgetting or just not realizing, please ask me!
I’ve realized that most people probably don’t have quite the…obsession that I have with Northern Ireland. Also, should explain some other things with where people are from and such.
This is technically set during the Northern Ireland 'troubles', however it is otherwise modern day. Or to think of it otherwise, the troubles have continued rather than having the current peace treaty.
Baj (and by extension, Tom) were born and raised in Manchester. They don’t live there, mind, they live…somewhere I haven’t decided yet, but it’s closer to London than that.
Baj being from Manchester is…useful, in this regards, since Manchester saw some of the same problems that Northern Ireland has, but from the other side, effectively.
Dinnerbone was born in London. He was raised wherever they are all living now. His mother is still around, but Baj has full custody of Dinnerbone.
Millbee was born in Cardiff and raised there until he was eight. His mother passed away then (when he was eight) in an accident. At that point, he came to live with Baj and Dinnerbone.
Pyro was born in, well. Derry/Londonderry, though if you ask him, it’s Derry. He was mostly raised in Belfast, however. When he is talking about living on one end of the Falls Road, well, the Falls Road is known for being a nationalist area. That’s why he says they live towards the neutral parts of it, since Tom couldn’t very well live with them at the top of it, basically.
This is where it becomes important to know how Pyro was raised.
He was raised almost exclusively by his mother and her side of the family. Tom was…there, and lived with them, etc., but he allowed his mother to do basically the entire raising. This is probably mostly since he was working most of the time, but also since he wasn’t really expecting to have a kid and get married. Since Lasairfhíona seemed more prepared to deal with a kid, Tom let her deal with it, she wasn’t, but things happen.
Also. Lasairfhíona and her family are Irish Nationalists. This means they support the cause of Northern Ireland joining with the Republic of Ireland. Northern Ireland is under the…control/government of the United Kingdom, currently (both in real life and in the story).
Thanks to this, Pyro has been effectively raised as an Irish Nationalist as well. He doesn’t think about it much, but it informs what he knows and, as well, thinks about England.
In this case, his family has pretty much convinced him that England itself is…worse than Northern Ireland is. He is under the impression that he can be arrested/interned (interned being held in prison without trial) for, basically, being Irish in the wrong places. And in this case, the wrong place includes all of England. This is why he’s so concerned about speaking Irish. It’s the easiest way to tell if some is Irish, after all. He also is unaware that Northern Ireland is under martial law. He thinks that the military presence is both normal and common. He’s vaguely aware that the military hasn’t always been there, and that his mother’s family is fighting to get them removed from the province, but he hasn’t really analyzed it all that much.
This is problematic for him, since he’s normally a very chipper and outgoing sort of person. Once he starts to realize that he’s not going to be arrested or anything, he will get more outgoing again, but he’ll always have the inner dialogue going, basically “I want to go home. They are trying to trick you and keep you from wanting to go home. You need to go home. They might be nice people, but this isn’t home.” And so on. Whether or not any of the others realize what he’s doing is…debatable. Baj might, once he starts contemplating various things, and he of course, can call Tom and ask him. Tom is the sort of person to be able to feel at home anywhere, but the expense of that is that he never really considers anything about where he’s living to be unusual or strange. So, he’s not really aware of how messed up things are. Sure, he knows that the province is under martial law, but, well, Northern Ireland has always had its problems, right? No Tom, not at all.
If you have any more specific questions that I am forgetting or just not realizing, please ask me!
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